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The seller states, The original motor starts up and runs good. It was the body number, which matched the one on his cowl tag. If you don't win, the pre-authorization will be released. In spite of the clutch being shot, its not too tough a job to replace. In addition, a W-31 would never have had a 3-groove pulley because A/C was not available with that motor. If everything checked out, then negotiation would definitely occur to the satisfaction of both parties. First, I need to have my travel, motel, and any ancillary expenses paid for regardless whether I have to fly or drive. The 70 however, had an aluminum intake and #6 heads. VIEW PRICES. Available was a four speed automatic. I had a 72 Cutlass Supreme, had a 4 barrel carbshe was slow on takeoff, but I had her pegged past 130 on speedometer. "That's when I got really charged up over those cars. "At the time, I was about the only Oldsmobile swap meet vendor around. A couple of years ago I drove out to New Jersey to authenticate a couple of cars for a client in California. I agree. You CAN get a good indication if the motor appears to be original and unmolested, and if all the correct W-31 equipment is in place. The next two numbers afterwards should decode . Email: contact@drivinithome.com. Sign up for a new account in our community. This W-31 is equipped with a four-speed manual transmission, definitely a nice find. As the Olds' story started to unfold, it became more about the family's history than just a car collector's dream W-Machine. Your IP: Nope. "I started looking at things like the Julian date codes on cowl tags, VIN numbers, broadcast sheets, and those kinds of things. The following year the car was changed to the W-31. This was the era prior to the Federal environmental and safety regulations taking effect. Reconnected! Kids with heads full of Hendrix, Joplin, and Dr. Leary took the wheel of high-horsepower youth machines for the first time everwith often tragic consequences. Cloudflare Ray ID: 7a2b73d15da07ed1 The interior is a mix. Later he decided to hold on to the car, which his father ordered new in 1970. The flat ridge acted like a spear. Cutlass rear bumper is worth a thousand dollars, that is if you can find one. The seller advises that it has rust but the floors and trunk are very solid. Materials and finishes are shown further in the gallery below. Terms of Use, Your Privacy Choices It became a model in its own right from 1968 to 1971, then reverted to an option through the mid-1970s. The option disappeared after 1970. . Jimmy is a mile deep in knowledge and an inch wide in focus. m)s of torque and incorporated low-restriction dual exhausts. MCR: What are the areas you look at when authenticating a car? Too bad the seller wants top dollar for a project car and cant even change the clutch! i owned a 1970 olds w31, had the marked w31 engine/w hurst 3spd auto with dual gate, bought from Lyle Rudolf in Mad city, Wisc, all paperwork incl, absolute mint condition, no rust, perfect interior, pd 12k, sold a few yrs later for 16k, last time i saw it , it was on the front page of the Wisconsin state Journal with a school bus buried in its azz end all the way up to the rear seat, should have never sold that damn car, regret it ever since, for resto purposes, i would give possibly 8-9k for that 31, i think that would be fair, by the time you put it back to mint,it will be worth its true value. It had ram air, sport mirrors, W-31 side stripes, and W-31 fender badges, but otherwise it looked just like a W-30. Chevrolet, Pontiac and Buick had been doing this and Olds joined the movement. This is not an easy restoration by any means, but as they say, the bones are there, I had a 1968 ramrod my junior year in high school 1980 bought it after I totaled my 71 Torino cobra I paid 1600 for the ramrod the same as I paid for my Torino . That is why the Hurst company built the Hurst Oldsmobile with the 455. The W-31 package began with Oldsmobile's version of the 350-cu.in. Many would say that the brand picked up an image of being old and stuffy. It looked and sounded like it was a W-30, but it was a Cutlass W-31. The engine balancer is big and as rare as hen's teeth. document.getElementById("ak_js_1").setAttribute("value",(new Date()).getTime()); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. To be able to look at a picture of an original W-30 car from back in the day to reference something is priceless.". The front and rear benches are trimmed in black vinyl upholstery (940), and features include an AM/FM stereo equipped with Bluetooth connectivity, faux woodgrain trim, and shoulder belts for the front occupants. ' Red Hills Rods & Classics ' is proud to offer you this absolutely gorgeous, all numbers matching, rotisserie restored & heavily documented 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Sports Coupe W31, one of only (116) built!The recipient of a nut & bolt rotisserie restoration in 2015, the final result . There is quite a bit of metalwork required from what you can see, wait until you begin to peel back the onion. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Please enable JavaScript to engage in the discussion on this site. Unfortunately, everything that makes it a W-31 can be bolted to any 350 Olds motor, so without a build sheet and matching VIN derivative on the block, there is no way to know with absolute certainty. Why don't you do something like drafting for a living? Quickest production Charger ever with a quarter-mile elapsed time (ET) of 10.6 seconds at 129 mph. It was pointed out that the largest market for Oldsmobiles was the population whose parents had in fact owned Oldsmobiles. I'm 40 years old. This is the VIN stamp on a W-30 engine block. Our featured automobile is the 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass W-31. A power steering system was reportedly installed by the original owner, while updates by the seller are said to include resealing of the steering gear, re-installation of the power steering equipment, replacement of the center steering link and hoses and shock absorbers as well as performing an alignment. Of the above production, these models were equipped with the W-30 32-bbl engine. Sign up for our free daily email and youll never miss another find: BF Auction: 1961 Volkswagen Samba Deluxe 23-Window, Pristine 1975 Cadillac Eldorado with 40,000 Genuine Miles. One of the best examples was the 340 CI Dodge Dart GTS which later helped spawn Plymouths Duster 340. Menu Search (866) 383-1416; Inventory. Ive had a bunch of 442s, and had 1 W car, a 69 W30 convert 4 speed, but always wanted a 70 W-31. You see, unlike today's completely insane muscle car marketplacewhere typical buyers of these 550 to 840 horsepower road kings age between 40 and 140, always pay their insurance bills on time, and seldom do crazy things on public roadsthe muscle car move of the 1960s was a first-time-around deal. Research indicates that there were about 1,300 W-31s assembled in 1970 across all body styles. WINNERS UPDATE Question of the Week: What's Your Favorite Print Ad For a Car Part? A full-size spare wheel with a Goodyear tire is located in the trunk. Location: On plate attached to top left dash board. Here is an amazing one-owner, matching numbers, low mileage Oldsmobile 442 Holiday Coupe from 1970, the peak of Oldsmobile performance, available now from the MAXmotive Pittsburgh Showroom. Get Used 1970 Oldsmobile Values Select a 1970 Oldsmobile Model Select a vehicle year and model below to get a valuation. At first Andy considered selling. The W-31 was filled with day-two parts, such as a vintage MSD box, an ACCEL Super Coil, headers, a high-stall converter, red airbags in the springs, a Sun Tach, and gauge pod. These cars are very rare and attract owners with erudite knowledge of Oldsmobile muscle. The car was ordered with the W-31 package and is powered by a numbers-matching 350ci V8 paired with a three-speed automatic transmission. Does not have the original carb. But even between Porsche and BMW, the comparison is somewhat skewed. Performance & security by Cloudflare. An original 1970 W-30 car like the one I authenticated in Chicago [Beth Bimbi's Oldsmobile, "Mom's W-30," Feb. '16] is easy to authenticate. I wanted to see how things were put together. The transmission in a W-30 would have an OW. The ad does not state which 4-Speed was offered, M-20 or M-21. production date code (month/day), and a suffix code which identifies the engine. 1969 Oldsmobile Cutlass 'S' Sports Coupe W31 #5 02-18-2023, 07:06 PM tom M. Junior Member : Join Date: Aug 2019. Who the hell wants that? The 1970 W-30 featured a 455 cubic inch 370 HP engine. The 68 Ram-Rod used the standard 4-Barrel Distributor. The one major detraction from the car was a missing carburetor that Jimmy says is "probably the hardest W-31 part to find." Copyright 2011 YearOne, Inc. - All Rights Reserved. inch block. That too has its own part number. If the latter is true,then it appears to be very hard miles. We stumbled onto this decrepit screaming yellow zonker during a waltz through Sendell's Auto Specialties in Shelbyville, N.C. (704/434-6759), a GM-centric salvage yard specializing in 1962 through 1988 models. Not only does Minore authenticate classic Oldsmobile muscle cars, but he also works on them, seen here with a 1967 W-30. "I've been doing engine bay restorations for years," he says. I would rather have a clean all together 200,000 mile car than one claiming such low mileage with everything worn out. I liked the under bumper hood scoops on the 68-69, just like the bad W/30. ". You've always got to be on the lookout for things like that, especially when you're looking at these high end cars. And further inspection may reveal other things to use when dickering the price down. FASTEST TOP SPEED OF ANY PRODUCTION MUSCLE CAR( Disclosure4), 3) Porsche 911 3.0 Carrera RS 109 built. Approximately 75k miles are shown on the five-digit odometer, about 2,500 of which have been added by the seller. I really dont know which is more effective at forced air although I heard the early ones were good at inhaling lots of dirt, gravel as well. The engine was not offered after 1971. W-31s have a lot of rare engine parts on them. For 1970, 3,100 W-30s were built. In 1970, Oldsmobile Division stamped out only one style of fender. (faster than 130). The car will move, but the clutch is shot. He also includes a burb stating that this Olds is a 49K mile example. Factory Tach doesnt appear to be missing, where would it go? Andy's father, John, bought this W-31 brand new, then parked it in his housethis housein 1984. At that point I asked the owner if he had any paperwork and he said yes.