It would force more of the research into other books or bibles but that usually happens anyways. Allan NIV1 BL (Classic Reference Edition) Bible. And this was the ONLY color advertized on another website (not EB just to clarify) and I get delivered the COLORED glossy hardbacks. Schuyler Classic KJV This Bible is now out of print. I have also decided to mark (very tastefully and carefully) my Blues too, and ever so slight dings wont bother me as much as my lovely browns. Allan Oxford wide margin- obviously for writing. I was not required to give a positive review only an honest review. FOR SALE! Aniline Calfskin reveals the life of the animal in the natural grain, exhibiting pores, [] The format that TBS has in common with the Schuyler will be wonderful for those who prefer a softer cover. . This is my favorite paper for maps. It is a complex many faceted problem including unions, government regulation, difficulty finding competent people and many other things. How blessed we are to live in a country where we have the bible in such a range of quality and quantity, easily obtained, often available for free. Ive worked this out different ways and even tried my hand at edge gilding, like it or not these materials and features do add additional costs to the product. LSB Inside Column Reference Bible Review. I recommend signing up for the newsletter on that page and theyll send out updates as they get them. 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The Schuyler KJV Reference Bible is their edition of one of my favorite KJVs ever published the TBS Westminster. Every edition features Full yapps Page size: 4.7 x 7.1 x 1 (120 mm x 180 mm x 28 mm) 28 GSM Paper Font: 8.5 pt. God bless all of you. Picture Information. Full Yapp Natural Grain Black Pearl Calfskin Cover with Navy Calfskin Lining Same Pagination as the Quentel CSB (all page numbers and format will be identical) 8.5 point Milo font Page size: 4.7 x 7.1 x 1.1 (120 mm x 180 mm x 28 mm) Line Matching 28 GSM Indopaque Paper 2 Navy Ribbons Art-Gilt Edging (blue under silver) Gilt Line . This would indicate that the liner is not glued down to the inside of the cover under the bulge. The inside liner is leather. I could be wrong but I dont think it would be significantly longer. I have never seen such a pathetic example of the placement of ribbons in a bible. I know that there are other ministries and firms other than those I mentioned, and in the Christian Publishing environment, I have yet to encounter a scoundrel though some may exist. Cambridge Clarion- Always a reader. What they have done with the better blue ribbons, classy cover with gold inlay around the inner edge, and binding changes, has made this to be in my opinion, the best bible you can own. The Cover and binding are of the highest quality available. Hi John. 28 GSM Indopaque Paper. Schuyler Canterbury KJV, Full Yapp Black Goatskin Bible. It might end up being my preaching and carry Bible. Other than for note taking, it can be the be all bible. Ie is the text block better on the schuyler. I look forward to commenting and reading all your replies on other reviews, but am going to bow out of this thread for now. Hi Norm. Evangelical bible did cover it with a plate that has my name on it. There have been collections and burnings of New Testaments in Israel. I prefer the method this Bible uses because it makes this Bible easier to use. To each of us as hath been given light or delusion. Schuyler KJV Canterbury Bible. It has perimeter stitching and a yapp (overhang to protect the page-edges). Yes, we do have so much to be thankful for and for those that publish the Word of God. The Schuyler Quentel ESV Black Goatskin can be found on evangelicalbible.com. Norm. Cambridge uses a company in Belarus and for some editions Jongbloed, perhaps others, I dont know where for sure LCBP gets their textblocks, I dont think they are printing their own though I may be wrong. That would be an amazing Bible. Buy one Schuyler and the shipping (USPS) is $17.50, buy two and the shipping is a whopping $50, even factoring in the modest cost of insurance. I hold no animosity to those who hold other opinions, what is important to me is that the Bible be read, respected and honored, and most importantly that Gods Word be uplifted throughout the world. The unique design presents the text in a modified "reader" format where chapter and verse numbers are available in the margins, but the text is otherwise quite clean and uncluttered. A nice shade I think. The thin gold bridges or has to span the crevasses in the goat skin texture as a good flat substrate is not provided due to the shallow text imprinting. There is a unique flow to the text. The paper is 32 gsm and has a slight cream tone. However my issue is that the verse numbers are so small that it is difficult to locate them while preaching. Here is the personal size version of this Bible. Can you tell me if there is any difference between this and the schuyler westminster reference other than the obvious like the goatskin or quality of the ribbons. Today, more than 400 years since its initial publication, the bestselling King James Version Bible continues to inspire, encourage, and strengthen people from all walks of life. And if Randy has an issue with anything I have posted, then in the future Ill attempt to practice a little more reservation when posting comments, information or links. From my standpoint, Id say stay with the TBS Westminster. The three bible options I am considering are as follows: An excellent review by Mark Bertrand. I just meant that it had pages for notes. What I Like High quality book block printed by Jongbloed Limp, leather-lined goatskin binding Good 32 gsm paper What I Don't Like Reference-optimized setting with especially narrow columns (but see above for my qualifications) The Photos: BlueDouble ColumnGoatskinKJVSchuyler $177.00 + $5.05 shipping. I have been grinding no axe for any entity, indeed I am sympathetic to these companies and the problems they encounter while trying to serve us. I agree with you about the overall size of the Westminster, although I certainly wouldnt mind if TBS and Schuyler eventually released a large print edition, but this is probably just wishful thinking on my part. Concluded this was from the flexure while hand holding due to the very light embossing of this text. When the back is laid with it topside the rear cover lays quite flat with the textblock. Its very readable even with the 4 columns on each page, and the cover is just amazing. All three compare identical with each other. Schuyler has answered in two ways. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. It doesnt have note pages or goatskin, but it still has great binding, lies flat, and has the best readability for preaching in my opinion. I would recommend the examination of Allans and LCBPs craftsmanship as examples to study and emulate. Its worth contacting them. The top of the page contains summaries of the main point of that page. Purchase Details. The SCHUYLER KJV is now in stock. I did not find the Navy with black lining to be objectionable. It is beautiful in every way. Your Cambridge Large Print suggestion is interesting to me. They seemed rather lifeless to me. Well I have waited a few days to give a proper opinion of the Schuyler KJV. to repeat at a later date. This makes it very readable. The front cover on the Schuyler due to the LARGE hinge radius will not lay as flat against the text block as it will the on TBS, nor as it does as on the Allan Longprimer or Clarendon. Free delivery for many products. Its like carrying a large study Bible. Hi Randy, This looks like a truly beautiful bible! Required fields are marked *. Is it error for this blessing, to exalt His Word in visible beauty by the talents God bestowed upon His instruments that print His wondrous Word for those that are His? Your total cost would be the same as the Schuyler, but you wouldnt have to pay the bulk of it for many years. I have dealt with EVB and can truly say that they are a fine company, I have purchased bibles from them, and have experienced nothing but top notch service and prices. This can be solved by printing the verse numbers bolder. I hoghly recommend this bible. Its perfect for the pulpit, but I do prefer carrying the KJV Reference or Concord. TYNDALE SELECT NLT Reference Bible (Black Calfskin Leather) Very Rare - $214.73. I feels more shiny somehow than the matte chocolate highland goatskin of the Allan. Wish the liner was the same color as the cover or at least a complimentary color. The Mahogany leather of the Schuyler is more of a tan color. This is not meant to be harsh, but realistic and candid. After recieving the 2nd edition Scuyler, I am blown away at the steps they took to upgrade a classic to newer standards. KJV, Personal Size Reference Bible, Sovereign Collection, Genuine Leather, Black, Red Letter, Thumb Indexed, Comfort Print: Holy Bible, King James Version: Thomas Nelson: 9780785239284: Amazon.com: Books Books Christian Books & Bibles Churches & Church Leadership Buy new: $83.59 List Price: $109.99 Details Save: $26.40 (24%) FREE Returns Rated 5 out of 5. by Landon Leslie Hi Seth. Received my replacement Schuyler KJV in black goatskin. SCHUYLER WIDE MARGIN KJV Bible - $307.92. It's clear of all the human intervention and clutter than gets in the way of reading. I have to say I like it. The text is printed in two-column format with references on the outer and inner margins. The art blueing could just as well have been not applied. I am coming to a tentative conclusion that most real, practical needs can be adequately covered with ones choice of the TBS Westminster, Windsor, LCBP Cameo or one of their hand sized editions and one will not need to feel of having missed anything, but still have a quality choice and variety of good to excellent text blocks and durable covers with the obvious far cheaper prices. Wish I could post pictures. This website uses cookies to improve your experience. I found the LCBP Thompson Chain Reference too soft for me as well, that one is going out for re-binding in stiffer calfskin for the reasons I listed. They dont have plans to bind them again. Im glad you like it! Schuyler Personal Size Quentel CSB, Black Goatskin Bible, Zipper Edition - PREORDER. It also contains the books and chapters that appear on that page. I dont want to be a curmudgeon that finds no good thing, but their are definite problems out there for almost every industry. Not real sure of who you are referring to specifically, but I have gone back and reread what I had written and I did not see anything specific which would give anybody the idea that I was upset. I am looking for a new bible and I think I have it narrowed down to two or three options. Between the Concord and the KJV Reference, I find the Concord font to be more comfortable to read from the pulpit or in dimmer light. I have signed up for the Canterbury email list. That which was to follow was meet for the ever increasing apostasy of Christianity up to the present day. The Quentel edition comes in a range of colors, such as dark green, imperial blue, and more. Evangelical Bibles customer service was exemplary as usual! These cookies do not store any personal information. Randy, If they carry an item, this is where it is bought from. They are printed much larger than other chapter summaries that Ive seen (for example, the Thompson Chain Reference, the Dugan/Jubilee Analytical Topical Study Bible, and the Brevier Clarendon). I am in my upper 30s in 10-15 years will the font in the Concord or the KJV Reference be too small to preach from? The embossing for the gold impressions on the cover and spine are shallow. They are appreciated. Just some observations: In regards to the paper in the Schuyler, it was brought to my attention that it is not thicker, but heavier or denser, which probably has more to do with not only the weight (gsm), but Opaqueness. Yet, history is replete with countless examples where his protection did not extend to the saving of the physical lives of His faithful, even those that sang praises of joy as their lives were extinguished in the most horrible manners and remained steadfast to their final breath. Rated 5 out of 5. by Rick . We'll assume you're ok with this, but you can opt-out if you wish. Not just the double-column layout and the verse-by-verse line breaks but even the phonetic spelling of supposedly difficult words is maintained. The cover bends over your hand while holding it. Your email address will not be published. I recently received the 2nd generation Schuyler KJV in purple, and Im totally pleased with it. Also, when hand holding the TBS, can insert by big finger between the text block spine and the covers spine!!! This was rolled back about , at which point it was well secured to the textblock, along its entire length fully revealing the topside of the liner flange. And, from what I understand a minimum print run of books/bibles is somewhere between 500 1000 copies. It might be a while before they know for sure. SCHUYLER NASB PERSONAL Size Quentel (Psl028578) - EUR 136,14. Noticed some slight discoloration?? Id like to be sure that the Schuyler Westminster includes the 32 pages of writing paper. $225.99. I think that most printing is indeed done overseas, this is due to the lamentable cost of labor and material here in the United States of America probably more than for any other reason. NIV - SCHUYLER Quentel Imperial Blue Goatskin - $189.12. The second pair are placed just a little right to the center of the headband. The KJV Reference font is prettier because its digital and I prefer it for general reading, but I do prefer the bolder fonts. What effect this has on small businesses like Schuyler/EV Bible I cant say as I dont know how many give one time love offerings or regular tithes to the ministries. Your review is the only one Ive found that lists the writing paper as a feature. 55,000 Cross References Concordance Glossary of King James Terms Schuyler Bible Maps . Commentary here is simply the tightly focused and measure of physical workmanship. (I wish the Quentels were this size!) It is a great Bible for carry, reading, and study. It is edge-lined and perimeter-stitched for the highest quality binding possible. I believe the nation is experiencing the wrath of a righteous God, as was many times with the chosen nation of Israel, for their idolatries (of which Americas cup is full; the love of money perhaps foremost amongst many idols) and the Satanic blood sacrifice of the most helpless of life in over 53 million abortions of convenience. One thing I like about this is that it contains the first chapter that appears and not the first chapter that starts on that page. Sponsored. Allan NASB Holy bible Black Goatskin. The red art dye with the gold gild looks very good, better than the former example in blue under silver. It has 6 raised ribs. You could always rebind it later if it does give you trouble. I originally bought most of these bibles with the intention of finding the ones that suit me best and selling or giving away the ones that dont. I have also purchased 23k gold foil by the booklet, which is also expensive. KJV Schuyler Treveris Holy Bible Black Goatskin Full Yapp. 2. 100% Satisfaction ~ Pre-Owned C $214.37 Buy It Now +C $25.43 shipping estimate from United States Anyway some great work for $98 shipped according to the receipt I found in the bible when it arrived. I only use the KJV and have no interest in the other versions. To cut to the quik, decided to try and gently lift the edge of the free endpaper if it was agreeable! Had debated which color to choose since Evangelical Bible posted their picture portfolio of this new line. Schuyler Canterbury KJV This is a major ground breaking design. Randy on the other hand, to the best of my knowledge, has always been respectful of both publishers and translations. This condition does not exist on the back, only the front. I have decided to hold off on any purchase of a high end bible until they finalize and release a few more details on that one. Thanks for your excellent reviews. As this glue is rather messy and can be stringy, decided to use a very thin two way tape of high adhesiveness to secure the free endpaper to the top of the flange being most careful the tape did not extend past the edge of the free endpaper (that would make a mess to be removed neatly!). The Schuyler measures .129-.130 thick per 100 sheets (200 pages) versus .132 similarly for the TBS. Rated 5 out of 5. by jasetaylor Cambridge KJV Concord Reference Bible, Dark Blue Goatskin-RED Letter, Full Yapp. SCHUYLER NASB PERSONAL Size Quentel (Psl028578) - EUR 134,23. All I wrote was in response to other input and the direction the postings have taken have lead me to believe that at some point someones feelings were injured perhaps by me or perhaps by someone else. Schuyler Bibles are actually printed and bound by Royal Jongbloed, in the Netherlands. Also the verses run together making it good for reading but difficult for locating scriptures. I have the first generation as well. I did order a hardback Westminster. In 1611, the King James Version Bible, also known as the Authorized Version, was published. It makes reading much more enjoyable. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. His gift of eternal life and adoption was totally of His mercy and grace. . Over two hundred thousand cross-references with good size, clear, readable print in an attractive new setting. As a result, this small area of liner material is pulled away from being secured to the inside of the cover. NIV - SCHUYLER QUENTEL IMPERIAL BLUE GOATSKIN. Everything is in good order on the bottom side alignment of the liner/flange cutout and the attachment of the cover liner to textblock is well effected. The text is presented in verse-by-verse format. $167.50. Free shipping. This makes them much more readable and usable. Line Matching. Its most likely 1769. It just may be for a small number of His faithful saints, His elect, that His wrath has not fully consummated this country, so far. By tomorrow I will have either decided to keep it, and chalk it up as a sign of the times, or will call EVB to state its condition and see if they consider this sloppy ribbon placement unacceptable. This is a verse-by-verse single-column layout with wide outer margins and a few design elements that make it stand out among its peers. The KJV is considered one of the most influential and beautiful works of . I would love to purchase this Schuyler Westminster kjv bible if it is for sale, Your email address will not be published. The drop caps are decorative, and the color of the ink is easy on the eyes. Not that it really means anything, but suspect that the TBS will not prove as durable in its end page hinges? If they had something like that with the dictionary and concordance in the back it might work just great for what I wanted. Thanks for the update Christopher. For quick reference and easy use, verse format is fine. Hopefully, but not expectantly, whoever handles this aspect of Schuylers bindery, will correct this area of concern that I worked on and will do something about the egregious characteristics of the front joint that causes it to lift so much from the text block before it finally settles against it around 2.5 inches to the right of the joint. The Westminster Reference Bible is an extensive reference Bible that is very reasonably priced for a Bible printed and bound by Jongbloead in the Netherlands with a soft and luxurious Meriva calfskin cover. It's available in goatskin in several colors. Exclusive photos of these Bibles. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. Its basic precept is quality and durability in every detail of the Bible. For one thing TBS sells the Westminster for $80, while EVBIBLE.COM (Schuyler) sells that same bible for a discounted price of $60, which I can only assume is the reason that someone would be able to buy 3 TBS Westminsters at the same price as the Schuyler Westminster. Except His ways are not our ways and in Him is there no unrighteousness and all things are for His pleasure and purpose. $280.00 + $17.10 shipping. When hand holding with the spine or tailband horizontal and you tilt or rotate the spine upwards toward a ~45 degree angle, either left or right side, you can feel a wobbleness (sic?). All in goatsking ecxept the longprimer 52. NASB (New American Standard Bible) New American Standard Bible 2020 (NASB) The font is a perfect size for me. This Ive not seen permitted in the offices or engineering areas. All this was carried out in a skilled and meticulous manner with what was on hand, although my hands-on experience is not of the book binding trade. Blessings Mr. Brown. $270.00 + $17.10 shipping. It is 139 pages and is one of the better concordances available in a Bible. I almost always fold back the covers for handheld reading. The KJV, AV, or simply known at one time as The Holy Bible is the most reverent language glorifying and honoring God the Father, Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and The Holy Spirit. The references and notes make the Schuyler KJV Reference Bible a great study Bible by giving you tools to define words and compare Scripture with Scripture. Semi-yapp cover. The Quentel KJV whenever it comes out will have a larger font but then we get into the other concern. This is another feature that I think places this one above the Longprimer. Its what TBS uses. There are no creases on the first bible paper page either. I am especially thankful for Randy and his Bible Buying Guide, he is doing all of us a great service as well as honoring God in doing so. Respectfully, 5. Rated 4 out of 5. by mcintyre.robert Ive been tempted to get the hardcover. The front cover at and near its left side will tend to remain a little raised from the textblock. I have adjusted pretty well to the TBS Westminister, and can use it while seated now. The embossing for the silver coloring on the cover front and spine seems shallow. Also trent.Im about to sell my new first edotion Longprimer 63. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. List of Books and Their Abbreviations Lists all the books in Biblical order. Typically edge-lined leather will outlast past-down vinyl liners. Schuyler uses only the finest materials in crafting their Bibles. I could conceivable make gizmo nozzle attachment to inject an adhesive in that area from the end, but just not that energetic for those things anymore!, and it may not pan out that well even with simulated mockup in card paper for trial runs. Schuyler looks at all the aspects of Bible Binding to produce a Bible that represents the highest quality in binding, materials, craftsmanship & legibility. For instance, I believe it was Jongbloed in the Netherlands that printed and bound the Schuyler Westminster; they also print and bind Cambridge bibles, the new Omega bible by Crossway and if Im not mistaken certain bibles from TBS, maybe even the TBS Westminster? Hi Jason. The Schuyler Canterbury looks VERY interesting. Are you certain that it will be slightly smaller than the Quentel? The cover flanges are pretty uniform and the excellent stitching is well within the flange borders. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Allan NIV1 BL (Classic Reference Edition) Bible at the best online prices at eBay! Thanks for this review. . There are two essential elements in every language: form (whether oral or written) which includes the phonological, grammatical, and lexical systems . This would give it some finishing touches like the Longprimer. John has raised some valid points about current quality standards in publishing. Page Size: 6.14 x 9.1 x 1.1 (156 mm x 231 mm x 29 mm) 9 mm yapp. A beautifully crafted New King James Bible in a clear single-column format for an exceptional Bible reading experience. Thats an impressive list and to place the 2nd ed. But as things stand would not recommend these editions to any with a potential interest. Great size as well. Rated 5 out of 5. by Landon Leslie Schuyler Personal Size Quentel ESV, Firebrick Red Goatskin Bible. The text is extremely easy to read for its size and also seems uninterrupted despite reference numbers being in the text. For what reason it was His pleasure to give life to this most unworthy and still unworthy sinner I know not. It has about a medium boldness. Im hoping its true, as this is an important feature for me. The Longprimer looks darker. Let me know if youre interested. The Holy Bible-Authorized King James Version-Indexed-Oxford University Press. And no offense intended, but when it comes to spreading the gospel of GOD, I dont think TBS or LCBP is the only shop in town. Don, Rated 5 out of 5. by Rick . From what I can tell, I see no difference between Schuylers and TBSs textblock. If I have done anything to offend any one of you all or if my comments have even made someone uncomfortable, please forgive me. It doesnt have footnotes. With that said, my wife has used the calfskin TBS as her daily Bible since I reviewed it in January of 2013. With kind thoughts, Next noticed the gold imprinting of Bible in Holy Bible on the front cover was getting a crazed effect of small cracks in the text characters surface. I seen elsewhere your recommendation of a 4 book combination and do concur. This in each event would occur in a string of about 5 contiguous pages. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. Schuyler KJV Canterbury Bible. 2 year reading plan has a morning and evening reading from two different sections of the Bible. Translators to the Reader This is my favorite edition of this document. We have the massacre of Christians in Africa and as the Mideast has purposely been destabilized, countries which did offer a measure of safety for their Christian factions is diminishing in the current civil upheavals. The rich black cover is beautiful. Just a little more care and observation in the neglected attributes is all that is required, just a little as most is there. Schuyler Bibles establishes a new level of quality in Bible binding. I appreciate the review and all the pictures. I hope none of you all take any of my comments as meaning anything other than that. Apologize for the use of any incorrect bookbindery terminology and grammar or disjointed commentary. Hi Mary. Schuyler Bibles establishes a new level of quality in Bible binding. The NT is the same width as the Thompson Chain, but its 3/4 taller, which was rebound in Cowhide, apparently over some thin book boards, which is real nice, but stiff. The appearance of this NT is similar to the calfskin on your TBS Westminster, but stiffer. For instance, Ive noted comments such as pathetic and unacceptable in the description of the Schuyler KJV Westminster and later the term lifeless was mentioned in regards to modern bible translations. I prefer paper without a glossy shine. Feb 24, 2023 | LSB (Legacy Standard Bible) | Featured. The goatskin seems flawless in its general pattern. I am though impressed with the quality of bibles as compared to other consumer products. FOR SALE! You can see the blue through the silver and it has a very fine spotty pattern. CLICK HERE for photos. $170.00 + $5.05 shipping. $499.99 + $9.25 shipping. Schuyler KJV Reference TBS especially produces on their website scholarly articles directed to the support of the Authorised translation.