No1seems2care. Glorious Govan. . Log In. In 1901 Govan was the 7th largest town in Scotland. One was that there was no real attempt at involving the tenants in these changes, nor was there any attempt at involving the community in the future management of their own locale. Read More There is absolutely no hiding from the fact that no Section 30 is the bullying action of a . 7 Markus, 1993, p. 163 Editors' Code of Practice. Based on this, Govan's Cumbric language name has been reconstructed as *(G)uovan. At the time, it was the fifth largest burgh in Scotland and contained within its boundaries, the areas of Plantation, Cessnock, Ibrox, Craigton and Drumoyne. Govan's earliest recorded name may be found in the Historia regum Anglorum attributed to Symeon of Durham. Comments have been closed on this article. This striking omission harks directly back to Darners time in Moorepark where the community had no say at all in their right to a decent home, in a decent environment, and a decent standard of life.13, Private housing is at present being built on the site of the old Granary at Partick while across the river at Govans Graving Docks, the developing company Bishop Loch have been given permission to alter its original approved plan for the Docks of a hotel and 500 houses. Yup I'll always be from Govan even though we lived a bus ride with the messages away from it in Shieldhall, that was situated near to the 50 pitches, I remember well my Dad and me watching the shipyards football competitions. Not Now. My grandparents on my mother's side were McElhinneys and attended Plantation Church while my dad's side and myself attending our Lady and St Margaret's Chapel. 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LAING from Wisdom, Madness and Folly, ALEX CATHCART Nostalgically Speaking Imagination is Money. In 1841, Robert Napier began iron shipbuilding in Govan, and in 1843 produced its first ship, the Vanguard. Another trick was to get a queue lined up outside his house but to serve only half of them and tell the others to come back later. Moorepark was demolished and converted into an industrial estate in the 1990s, along with a nearby contemporary development at Teucharhill which had a similar tough reputation. You Wine Alley Govan Team were shite begs. Community Centre & Play-Park in the Wine Alley, Govan. In Cowie Street, Kinning Park there was a pub at the corner but can't remember what it was called? My cousin disappeared, the policeman went into the steamie and came out with a bucket of soapy water and a cloth to wipe it off. Its cells were just as grim but did not seem to deter the many local villains who frequented them on a regular basis. My husband and I ended up going into the USA. In 1855, an elaborately carved sandstone sarcophagus was found during digging in the churchyard. A great place to live. Maureen Doyle was my name then. We loved it there and had best times growing up in Govan, a great wee community and a great bunch of people, neighbours were great and we had lots of great friends to play with. C/o Jones Lang LaSalle 150 St Vincent Street Glasgow G22 5ND AGENT Jones Lang LaSalle 150 St Vincent Street Glasgow G22 5ND WARD NO (S) 52, Govan COMMUNITY COUNCIL 02_073, Govan CONSERVATION AREA LISTED ADVERTTYPE Bad Neighbour Development PUBLISHED 24 October 2003 SITE AND DESCRIPTION While debating the (Greenwood) Housing Bill of 1930, the MP John Wheatley insisted that Britain would never get rid of its slum problem as long as it continued to set aside for a particular section of the community an inferior quality of housing The above extract comes from the enquiry that the sociologist Sean Damer wrote on the history of what was regarded as the most notorious slum-housing scheme in the Glasgow of the 1970s, Moorepark, or as it came to be known by Govanites and Glaswegians the Wine Alley of Govan. Thus, the major failing of any community planning is its inability to understand this relationship between the community and authority in detail and in an objective manner. For about a decade that shop stood empty and it broke my heart. My dad gave my a slap for not fighting them, god was only about five years old. : Gwovan[3]? With its bad name, many people from Moorepark could not get jobs while those that could often disguised their addresses and, if they a they moved away because of its bad reputation Gradually, the decrease in services, coupled with, a by now high turnover of tenancie let house, led to the accretion of demoralised families coming into the scheme and all the stories about Moorparks good-for-nothing population seemed to be justified. Teddy boys jumped on little bike and broke it. Contact. I remember living in a single end tenement (1950's) at 77 Nethan Street and the excitement on a Saturday morning when the man delivered the coal in our bunker which was right next to our bed. I thought you wrote "hides in a fridge and dodges an erection!" . I look forward to reading further. I was born and brought up in Drumoyne. I spent a lot of time at my granny's while growing up I remember we used to get payed for watching the cars when there was a game on at Ibrox. Comedian. Many members of the family were married at St Anthonys Chapel. I went to Hillstrust School until I was 10 then we moved to Nitshill which I was not so fond of, Govan was a great place to live we were always putting on concerts round the backs and folk would hang out the windows to watch the performance there was always stuff going on or buss-runs that our streets would organise and the Govan Fair, Govanites were great. 8 Markus, 1993, p. 163 Nestled among the quaint streets ', "1881 England Census, The London Charterhouse, St Sepulchre Without, London, p.6 RG11/344", "University of Glasgow:: Story:: Biography of Jimmy Reid", "Aircraft and Shipbuilding Industries Act 1977 (c. 3) Schedule 2 Shipbuilding Industry", Govan Maps 1857-1934, National Library of Scotland, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Govan&oldid=1127691800, Wikipedia articles incorporating a citation from the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica with Wikisource reference, Short description is different from Wikidata, Articles containing Scottish Gaelic-language text, Articles with MusicBrainz area identifiers, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 16 December 2022, at 03:51. [27], In 1971, Upper Clyde Shipbuilders went into receivership and the Conservative government led by Edward Heath refused to give them a 6,000,000 loan. Small things eh? Alley & Vine will be ready for outdoor and indoor dining once allowed, but until then, customers can order online or by phone for takeout and curbside pickup. Their powerlessness in this matter soon became clear when Moorepark was deliberately targeted as a dumping ground for Glasgows homeless, those on low incomes, and people with few housing points who were enabled to jump the waiting list if they accepted a house in the scheme. This was a very hard job physically where we would carry a wicker basket (full of ashes, etc.) There was a chapel in the parish at Partick. dealing, drug abuse, and money lending had flourished in a big way since 1975, which only added to the schemes wretchedness. I remember the days my sister and I would take part in the fair while we were in a dancing school, which was named Thompsons. My grandparents lived opposite and I remember being sent down to McGunness for an ounce of tobacco for my grand dads pipe. We left Govan when I was two, then lived for five years in Markinch before moving on to Kelty, Cowdenbeath, Armadale, and Rushden down in England. I was born in 1952 and lived in Golspie Street until I was 10 when we moved to Garthamlock. She had 3 boys Alex, Willie and Robert. Strange thing is that we carried passengers on some days, these passengers had a dinner on board while we discharged the cargo with most never knowing what was happening. Registered in England & Wales | 01676637 |. Fond memories include falling in the Elder Park pond and breaking my collar bone, trying to do the fish and chips, building gang huts in the air-raid shelters and raking the middens. Providing activities for member children and young people Providing informal and formal training for family members Non-governmental organisations working in the field such as the Church, charitable organisations, etc., have for a long time advocated Community Planning or management of the urban environment as the best solution to this problem of how to give a better quality of life to many of the citizens of our country. We left govan to go to Drumchapel. Living Dangerously in Govan by James McDonald. I noticed a post by Murray G. Wondering if we might be related at all? 99m New Cafe India Govan . 6 Markus, 1993, p. 163 Again, where were the democratic, caring authorities when the 1987-1990 Glasgow Housing Condition Survey found that in a third of the citys houses suffered from condensation, dampness and mould and did little about it? My Mother took me to the Southern and a giant black man came in. They were friendly and knowledgable, it was a great experience. One hypothesis is that it was a prehistoric burial mound. I lived across from Fairfield shipyard and I saw ship being launched when l was about four, I saw Harry Lauder embark from a ship and he was the first person who told me I was a bonnie wee lass. My gran was Ella Campbell who lived in Greenfield Street during the 50s and 60 s. Gallery. I remember Vogue would show two part Westerns that made us come back the following Saturday to find out who won the fight, there was also an entertainer named "uncle Harry" who would go up on the stage when the movie was over and ask us to wave our white hankies that we were asked to bring, we would all stand up and sing "Pack up your troubles in your old kit bag" before we left. Add your own memories or stories by clicking here. Moorepark is a small area in the Scottish city of Glasgow. The Govan ferry was something special for us to go on, either by ourselves or with our mum. 102m Harley's ice cream parlour . Darner had two criticisms of the improvement programme. I now live in Brydekirk village but I'll never forget Govan. I learned to play tennis in the Elder Park which stood by me for I played the game for the next 60 years wherever I landed. Hi there, just wondering if anyone has any info or stories on the Slaters, Mckechnies or Hutchisons, hope to hear back. James and Catherine moved to Govan from Ireland and lived on Victoria (Neptune) Street and Langlands Road. I remember on Sunday mornings being taken with my sister, Elizabeth, on a No. policy initiatives given due regard. The county added to the description of these lands, the phrase: "but now by annexation in the County of Renfrew. I was pretty sad when I left Govan and leaving my family was devastating to me. There I was, short hair, snotty-nosed from crying and eating an ice cream cone. You never forget these things, but what great days and what character building it was. It occurs in the buyers market where access to housing is based on the ability to pay, and it also takes place in the council allocation system where the disadvantaged are lumped together in sink housing schemes. We stayed in Elphinstone Street but after a fire we had to move to my grans house at 62 Golspie Street at the corner of Langlands Road, it was known as McCormick's close he being the owner of a hardware store. Renton, WA 98058. The Wine Alley is a boutique wine shop specializing in fine wines from the Pacific NW and Around the world! As a university sociologist, My father was a chemist who worked for the SCWS. HP10 9TY. The owner later came in with home-made tablet for all of us. I would so love to hear from you if you do. In recent years it has seen major improvements with the building of Glasgow Science Centre and the Glasgow Arc, better known as the Squinty Bridge. I guess I drifted away from Govan for some time although I watched it contract as the shipyard industry faded and that was until my interest was aroused as the company I was working for took up new premisis near the Southern General as it was then. In reply to these petitions, the Scottish Parliament wrote to Glasgow City Council and to Scottish Enterprise Glasgow, asking for their responses to the submission and within 4 months, Glasgow Council had taken steps to set up the Central Govan Action Plan.16 The locals in Govan fear that gentrification is making its way in, in the face of community objections.15 Been looking at the old pictures of Govan and wondered if anyone remembers my father's Chemist/Optician shop at Govan Cross near Helen St, 830 Govan Road. I also went to the Glasgow City Mission which was in Kintra Street, how I loved my childhood. Most of it has now been demolished to make way for an industrial estate. contact the editor here. I went to St. Margaret's and I remember Susan's shop where she would stand outside to see where people where buying their messages from. This website and associated newspapers adhere to the Independent Press Standards Organisation's So, has Glasgow and other cities always been in the hands of comprehensive planners who take an overview of all the parties involved? I attended Notre Dame School and Jackie told customers this to reassure them of the standard of my handwriting!